buying min horns and other collector items in bulk? - Guild Wars Forums

Lynnrose · Aug 16, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

I have noticed over the past few days an increase in the number of people in Augury and other desert towns spamming the trade channel in search of bulk quanities of minotaur horns, forgotten seals, etc. Apart from using them as cash storage to avoid the $1 MM cap (wouldn't ecto or shards be better?) or trading them in for items to give to guildies or sell to newbs, is there any reason to horde those items? Just curious . . . .

stumpy · Aug 16, 2005, 11:52 PM // 23:52

heres an idea that might not be too far out of the obsurd ... they might actually want them for collector items. Not buying them all at once and ruining your storage ... but buying say 250 horns for discounted price ... then as guildies need ... they go get the item and give it to them? hmmmm ... wait I think it may be more cost effective buying 5 minotaur horns at a time.

fog_of_redoubt · Aug 17, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Was wondering the same thing myself... And no it isnt for using at collector... I have seen people buy horns 250 at a time

There isnt enough profit in flipping the weapons. They know something we dont

Aniewiel · Aug 17, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Maybe people are 'banking' on things that seemingly have little or no use in the current game to have more use in the summer update OR in the next expansion? It's a possibility anyhow.

Xue Yi Liang · Aug 17, 2005, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Well, it depends on the collector.
Maybe it's like people who collect Frosted Griffin Wings. There's a big business in selling certain collector Air Staves or Crimson Carapace shields over in Ascalon and LA that can be had for griffin wings. I've had people buy as many as 78 Frosted Griffin wings from me so they can sell Staves or Shields for 3k-9k in Ascalon.

I'd assume it was the same with collectors of Minotaur Horns.

Starsky-sama · Aug 17, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

well ive noticed that if u expert salv. these desert drops, they do salvage into the commonly used materials and maybe they are collecting the salv. materials to sell in trader? maybe...i dont get into the "buy low sell high" thing like some ppl do.maybex2.

Hell Marauder · Aug 17, 2005, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Salvaging minotaur horns doesn't make sense. They usually ask to buy horn 50 g apiece. So if you break it down to common crafting materials, it barely break even as those materials are rather cheap. Avoiding 1 million cap doesn't make sense either, as they should buy something more expensive like shards/ecto or superior vigor/absorption runes to take less space in storage. So the plausible explanation is buying collector items to resell. Anyone with any other new idea?

Lynnrose · Aug 17, 2005, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Min horns trade for fire wands, which should sell pretty well in Ascalon. Five horns = 250 gp = wand that could sell for 1K or more. However, the time spent doing that could be spent making multiple farming runs for not only gold, but XP. Oh well.

Chobby · Aug 17, 2005, 03:07 AM // 03:07

if they are avoiding the 1 milliion cap then why bother buying and reselling to gain more gold which they cant store in the first place anyway?

TideSwayer · Aug 17, 2005, 03:07 AM // 03:07

Yesterday I saw alot of people in Lion's Arch "WTB Protection +1 offhand", so I went to the collector, got one (had to farm the materials for it, which took about 5 minutes), and then returned to LA with my Prot +1.

Sold it for 3k in about 2 minutes.

Starsky-sama · Aug 17, 2005, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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Originally Posted by TideSwayer

Yesterday I saw alot of people in Lion's Arch "WTB Protection +1 offhand", so I went to the collector, got one (had to farm the materials for it, which took about 5 minutes), and then returned to LA with my Prot +1.

Sold it for 3k in about 2 minutes.

/groovehh

Mario 64 Master · Aug 17, 2005, 03:58 AM // 03:58

I don't buy them, but I use certain collectors items that I find (minotaur horns, bleached carapaces, huge jawbones) to trade to armor collectors and expert salvage the armors to get 5 or 6 silk or like 30 cloth. Probably would work out better with other classes, I bet you could get some steel with a warrior or something like that.

chaos dragoon · Aug 17, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00

i think it is to get the weapons.i saw this guy in ascalon trying to sell the crimson carpace shield with +45 hp while enchanted and something else for 10k.im guessing there are good items in the desert too.

TideSwayer · Aug 17, 2005, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by Mario 64 Master

I don't buy them, but I use certain collectors items that I find (minotaur horns, bleached carapaces, huge jawbones) to trade to armor collectors and expert salvage the armors to get 5 or 6 silk or like 30 cloth. Probably would work out better with other classes, I bet you could get some steel with a warrior or something like that.

Wow. That's a great idea.

Thor Wolfson · Aug 17, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27

I've seen the collector for Mino horns, and unless there's another one, I'm fairly sure that you get gauntlets. It's just outside Augry.

Red Sonya · Aug 17, 2005, 09:16 AM // 09:16

Ok I've tested the Mino Horns with expert salvage kit one gives you (6) bones. Pretty worthless, I've never seen bones worth much at the NPC merchants. BUT!! The collectors gauntlets yield (15) tanned hides and I have seen them as high as 15gp each at the bulk npc merchant, so while the mino horns are worth 25gp each (125gp total for 5), if one saves the tanned hides and waits for even 10gp from the NPC bulk merchants it's another 25gp, and if you wait for the 15gp price that's 225gp, which is another 100gp profit over just the 5 mino horns to begin with.

Clearly this is a traders game doing this, I have no patience for it really to collect and horde till the price is right, but, for those of you who will inkle out every penny they can out of the game, there's your profit door. lol

Personally what I do though is collect a bunch of mino horns and then make a henchie run to Mineral Wells, find the collector that is close to the zone in and trade for Ascalon Bows +15 > 50 and go back and sell them for 1k to 2k each. They are worth a lot more I think, but, I hate hawking and waiting on people to buy. I figure traders buy them from me at reduced price and resell them for 3k to 4k which I really think is a fair price for them considering all that one has to go through to get them.

Thock · Aug 17, 2005, 10:04 AM // 10:04

people do the same thing in ascalon. they buy charr hides and give them to the collector there for fur squares and sell those. its easier than say doing drok runs or farming griffions and is a good way to make a little cash at low levels. later in the game buying items for collectors and selling the weopons is probobly the best way for say a mesmer (who cant solo farm anything) to make some decent bank. sure it takes a long time and its boring as hell but not everyone wants to build a farming charector.

Red Sonya · Aug 17, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49

Lol Mesmer can't solo anything? hehe Yes it seems to be a Warrior Monk Elemental world I guess. I'm starting a new E/Mo gonna be smite and fire, should be fun to solo with.

Thock · Aug 17, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58

i wasnt saying anything derogatory about the mesmer class i was simply stating that it is hard for them to solo farm. the same goes for necros and eles. caster classes are just too gooey and soft to solo farm efficiently. with the exception of 105 monks but thats another story. imho that build is broken but thats another discussion entierly.

Algren Cole · Aug 17, 2005, 04:25 PM // 16:25

I have 600 Griffon Wings and 750 Minotaur horns....I'ma have to find a way to make money off these.

Aug 16, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#1
Lynnrose Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Guild: SoF Victrix [SoF]	buying min horns and other collector items in bulk? I have noticed over the past few days an increase in the number of people in Augury and other desert towns spamming the trade channel in search of bulk quanities of minotaur horns, forgotten seals, etc. Apart from using them as cash storage to avoid the $1 MM cap (wouldn't ecto or shards be better?) or trading them in for items to give to guildies or sell to newbs, is there any reason to horde those items? Just curious . . . .

Aug 17, 2005, 03:58 AM // 03:58	#12
Mario 64 Master wats going on Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Trumbull, Connecticut Guild: Nuclear Launch Detected [Nu] Profession: W/Mo	I don't buy them, but I use certain collectors items that I find (minotaur horns, bleached carapaces, huge jawbones) to trade to armor collectors and expert salvage the armors to get 5 or 6 silk or like 30 cloth. Probably would work out better with other classes, I bet you could get some steel with a warrior or something like that. __________________

Aug 17, 2005, 09:16 AM // 09:16	#16
Red Sonya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005	Ok I've tested the Mino Horns with expert salvage kit one gives you (6) bones. Pretty worthless, I've never seen bones worth much at the NPC merchants. BUT!! The collectors gauntlets yield (15) tanned hides and I have seen them as high as 15gp each at the bulk npc merchant, so while the mino horns are worth 25gp each (125gp total for 5), if one saves the tanned hides and waits for even 10gp from the NPC bulk merchants it's another 25gp, and if you wait for the 15gp price that's 225gp, which is another 100gp profit over just the 5 mino horns to begin with. Clearly this is a traders game doing this, I have no patience for it really to collect and horde till the price is right, but, for those of you who will inkle out every penny they can out of the game, there's your profit door. lol Personally what I do though is collect a bunch of mino horns and then make a henchie run to Mineral Wells, find the collector that is close to the zone in and trade for Ascalon Bows +15 > 50 and go back and sell them for 1k to 2k each. They are worth a lot more I think, but, I hate hawking and waiting on people to buy. I figure traders buy them from me at reduced price and resell them for 3k to 4k which I really think is a fair price for them considering all that one has to go through to get them. Last edited by Red Sonya; Aug 17, 2005 at 09:19 AM // 09:19..

Aug 16, 2005, 11:52 PM // 23:52	#2
stumpy Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canucklehead BC, Canada Guild: Advanced Necro Undead Society	heres an idea that might not be too far out of the obsurd ... they might actually want them for collector items. Not buying them all at once and ruining your storage ... but buying say 250 horns for discounted price ... then as guildies need ... they go get the item and give it to them? hmmmm ... wait I think it may be more cost effective buying 5 minotaur horns at a time.

Aug 17, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29	#3
fog_of_redoubt Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005	Was wondering the same thing myself... And no it isnt for using at collector... I have seen people buy horns 250 at a time There isnt enough profit in flipping the weapons. They know something we dont

Aug 17, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30	#4
Aniewiel Smite Mistress Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Land of AZ, USA Profession: Rt/E	Maybe people are 'banking' on things that seemingly have little or no use in the current game to have more use in the summer update OR in the next expansion? It's a possibility anyhow.

Aug 17, 2005, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#5
Xue Yi Liang Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern CA Guild: Outlaws of the Water Margin Profession: Mo/Me	Well, it depends on the collector. Maybe it's like people who collect Frosted Griffin Wings. There's a big business in selling certain collector Air Staves or Crimson Carapace shields over in Ascalon and LA that can be had for griffin wings. I've had people buy as many as 78 Frosted Griffin wings from me so they can sell Staves or Shields for 3k-9k in Ascalon. I'd assume it was the same with collectors of Minotaur Horns.

Aug 17, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27	#6
Starsky-sama Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Land of the Z Chest \o/ Guild: [NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil. Profession: W/	well ive noticed that if u expert salv. these desert drops, they do salvage into the commonly used materials and maybe they are collecting the salv. materials to sell in trader? maybe...i dont get into the "buy low sell high" thing like some ppl do.maybex2.

Aug 17, 2005, 02:43 AM // 02:43	#7
Hell Marauder Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Salvaging minotaur horns doesn't make sense. They usually ask to buy horn 50 g apiece. So if you break it down to common crafting materials, it barely break even as those materials are rather cheap. Avoiding 1 million cap doesn't make sense either, as they should buy something more expensive like shards/ecto or superior vigor/absorption runes to take less space in storage. So the plausible explanation is buying collector items to resell. Anyone with any other new idea?

Aug 17, 2005, 03:05 AM // 03:05	#8
Lynnrose Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Guild: SoF Victrix [SoF]	Min horns trade for fire wands, which should sell pretty well in Ascalon. Five horns = 250 gp = wand that could sell for 1K or more. However, the time spent doing that could be spent making multiple farming runs for not only gold, but XP. Oh well.

Aug 17, 2005, 03:07 AM // 03:07	#9
Chobby Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: R/N	if they are avoiding the 1 milliion cap then why bother buying and reselling to gain more gold which they cant store in the first place anyway?

Aug 17, 2005, 03:07 AM // 03:07	#10
TideSwayer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: We Farm Your [?????????s]	Yesterday I saw alot of people in Lion's Arch "WTB Protection +1 offhand", so I went to the collector, got one (had to farm the materials for it, which took about 5 minutes), and then returned to LA with my Prot +1. Sold it for 3k in about 2 minutes.

Aug 17, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00	#13
chaos dragoon Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Warrior Nation[WN] Profession: R/	i think it is to get the weapons.i saw this guy in ascalon trying to sell the crimson carpace shield with +45 hp while enchanted and something else for 10k.im guessing there are good items in the desert too.

Aug 17, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27	#15
Thor Wolfson Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Dawn of Fury	I've seen the collector for Mino horns, and unless there's another one, I'm fairly sure that you get gauntlets. It's just outside Augry.

Aug 17, 2005, 10:04 AM // 10:04	#17
Thock Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Achieving Deficiency [aD]	people do the same thing in ascalon. they buy charr hides and give them to the collector there for fur squares and sell those. its easier than say doing drok runs or farming griffions and is a good way to make a little cash at low levels. later in the game buying items for collectors and selling the weopons is probobly the best way for say a mesmer (who cant solo farm anything) to make some decent bank. sure it takes a long time and its boring as hell but not everyone wants to build a farming charector.

Aug 17, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49	#18
Red Sonya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005	Lol Mesmer can't solo anything? hehe Yes it seems to be a Warrior Monk Elemental world I guess. I'm starting a new E/Mo gonna be smite and fire, should be fun to solo with.

Aug 17, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58	#19
Thock Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Achieving Deficiency [aD]	i wasnt saying anything derogatory about the mesmer class i was simply stating that it is hard for them to solo farm. the same goes for necros and eles. caster classes are just too gooey and soft to solo farm efficiently. with the exception of 105 monks but thats another story. imho that build is broken but thats another discussion entierly.

Aug 17, 2005, 04:25 PM // 16:25	#20
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	I have 600 Griffon Wings and 750 Minotaur horns....I'ma have to find a way to make money off these.